While Barack Obama plunges his country into a controversial debate about gays in the U.S. military, he could perhaps find comfort in the Canadian experience which celebrates an anniversary milestone next week.

The U.S. president has promised to repeal America’s policy of, ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell,’ reviving a heated debate in his country that has not made a ripple in Canada since Oct. 27, 1992.

On that day Canada’s Federal Court ruled that barring homosexuals from military service violated the Charter of Rights and Freedoms in a landmark verdict that prompted more openly gay men and women to join the ranks of the Army, Air Force and Navy.

In the last 17 years, many have risen to the top in their respective fields – an otherwise impossible feat under rules that once barred the promotion of enlisted individuals who’d been outed.

Luc Cassivi is one of them.

He certainly didn’t talk about his sexual orientation when he joined the Canadian Navy in 1983. He’s now the highest-ranking sailor aboard HMCS Ville de Quebec, a commander in the Navy, and he’s no longer shy about who he is.

“I’ve been openly gay for a number of years. My friends and my co-workers know it and it surely has not been an impediment for me progressing,” Cassivi said in an interview aboard his Halifax-based frigate.

“I’m not saying that things have always been rosy. There were periods when things were difficult for a lot of people. . . But I think we’re well past that at this point.”

According to the Palm Centre, a California-based think tank focused on research related to gender, sexuality and the military, Canada is a leader among the 25 countries that now permit military service by openly gay people.

Canadian Forces chaplains have been blessing same-sex weddings on military bases since 2005 and, over the last four years, military recruiters have participated in gay-pride festivals in Toronto, Hamilton, Montreal and Vancouver.

Cassivi spent 15 years in tight quarters as a submariner. He said he’s experienced his share of awkward moments and uncomfortable jokes. There were even times he considered leaving the military.

But once the rules changed, he says, so did the culture. Opportunities began to surface. These days, Cassivi says, success is dictated by performance.

“It’s not colour, cultural background, gender or the like. It’s (whether) you are competent at what you do,” he said. “If you’re competent at what you do, then the team will take you in and fully integrate you.”

Cassivi said coming out with his colleagues merely simplified his life. He doesn’t see himself as a champion for gay rights and says this is the first time he’s ever spoken in the media about his sexuality. What he’s most concerned about, he says, is getting the best out of his crew.

“I believe in the power of the people who work for me. It’s really about them at the end of the day,” he said.

“I try to do the best job I can and if somebody sees me as a role model, good for them. If what I do inspires them to carry on and achieve their full potential, that’s great, but that’s for them to judge, not me.”

Michelle Douglas is heartened to learn just how much things have changed for her fellow homosexuals.

The 45-year-old public servant was inadvertently thrust into the spotlight when she was discharged from the military police in 1989 because she was – in their words – “not advantageously employable due to homosexuality.”

She had no idea at the time the historic impact her legal challenge would have, but as the anniversary of that fateful victory approaches, Douglas said she’s thrilled to have played a “small part” in the rights movement.

“It was a real turning point for equality rights for gay and lesbian people in Canada,” she said.

“To have such an institution as the military now be open to gay and lesbian service members was an important victory.”

While she never did return to the Canadian Forces, she was pleased to see service members marching for the first time at Toronto’s pride festival in 2008.

“I approached them and told them who I was. They kind of had heard of my case but for them it was really something they saw as history,” she said.

“It was heartwarming to me to know that there had been such advances. . . that it could now be viewed as history and people could just get on with their lives and serve their country proudly and openly.”

Megan MacLean, a spokeswoman for Canada’s Department of National Defence, said the military keeps no statistics regarding homosexual members but says gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered people serve in all three branches of the military.

Since the rules changed in 1992, she said, incidents of discrimination and harassment have been “extremely rare.”

She touted Canada as a global leader when it comes to inclusiveness. She noted, however, that the Obama administration had not sought any Canadian advice on how to tackle the thorny subject.

Nathaniel Frank, a senior researcher in the U.S. with the Palm Centre, said that’s not an unlikely proposition.

Every time the debate surfaces in the U.S., he said officials look to more liberal countries like Canada and Britain. While American conservatives often dismiss Canada and Western Europe as too laissez-faire, Frank said that’s inaccurate.

There was actually plenty of political opposition before the Canadian ban was lifted, he said, and a majority of male soldiers polled prior to 1992 said they’d refuse to shower, undress, or sleep in the same room as a gay comrade.

“The same kinds of rhetoric we heard here (in the U.S.) during our debate in the early 1990s and since – that this would never work, that it would undermine morale and cohesion, that the military would suffer and that it’s too big a risk – were also heard in Canada,” Frank said.

But a 2000 study of the Canadian experience by the University of California research group found no basis for the allegations.

Lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered soldiers reported good working relationships with their peers; incidences of sexual harassment among women dropped; and not a single assault could be attributed to gay-bashing.

The study concluded that lifting the ban on openly gay members had no bearing on military performance, unit cohesion, or discipline.

He expects the same would be true if the U.S. dropped its ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell’ policy and says he’s optimistic nay-sayers won’t be able to stave off change for much longer.

“We know we’re standing on the right side of history,” he said.

While Barack Obama plunges his country into a controversial debate about gays in the U.S. military, he could perhaps find comfort in the Canadian experience which celebrates an anniversary milestone next week.

The U.S. president has promised to repeal America’s policy of, ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell,’ reviving a heated debate in his country that has not made a ripple in Canada since Oct. 27, 1992.

On that day Canada’s Federal Court ruled that barring homosexuals from military service violated the Charter of Rights and Freedoms in a landmark verdict that prompted more openly gay men and women to join the ranks of the Army, Air Force and Navy.

In the last 17 years, many have risen to the top in their respective fields – an otherwise impossible feat under rules that once barred the promotion of enlisted individuals who’d been outed.

Luc Cassivi is one of them.

He certainly didn’t talk about his sexual orientation when he joined the Canadian Navy in 1983. He’s now the highest-ranking sailor aboard HMCS Ville de Quebec, a commander in the Navy, and he’s no longer shy about who he is.

“I’ve been openly gay for a number of years. My friends and my co-workers know it and it surely has not been an impediment for me progressing,” Cassivi said in an interview aboard his Halifax-based frigate.

“I’m not saying that things have always been rosy. There were periods when things were difficult for a lot of people. . . But I think we’re well past that at this point.”

According to the Palm Centre, a California-based think tank focused on research related to gender, sexuality and the military, Canada is a leader among the 25 countries that now permit military service by openly gay people.

Canadian Forces chaplains have been blessing same-sex weddings on military bases since 2005 and, over the last four years, military recruiters have participated in gay-pride festivals in Toronto, Hamilton, Montreal and Vancouver.

Cassivi spent 15 years in tight quarters as a submariner. He said he’s experienced his share of awkward moments and uncomfortable jokes. There were even times he considered leaving the military.

But once the rules changed, he says, so did the culture. Opportunities began to surface. These days, Cassivi says, success is dictated by performance.

“It’s not colour, cultural background, gender or the like. It’s (whether) you are competent at what you do,” he said. “If you’re competent at what you do, then the team will take you in and fully integrate you.”

Cassivi said coming out with his colleagues merely simplified his life. He doesn’t see himself as a champion for gay rights and says this is the first time he’s ever spoken in the media about his sexuality. What he’s most concerned about, he says, is getting the best out of his crew.

“I believe in the power of the people who work for me. It’s really about them at the end of the day,” he said.

“I try to do the best job I can and if somebody sees me as a role model, good for them. If what I do inspires them to carry on and achieve their full potential, that’s great, but that’s for them to judge, not me.”

Michelle Douglas is heartened to learn just how much things have changed for her fellow homosexuals.

The 45-year-old public servant was inadvertently thrust into the spotlight when she was discharged from the military police in 1989 because she was – in their words – “not advantageously employable due to homosexuality.”

She had no idea at the time the historic impact her legal challenge would have, but as the anniversary of that fateful victory approaches, Douglas said she’s thrilled to have played a “small part” in the rights movement.

“It was a real turning point for equality rights for gay and lesbian people in Canada,” she said.

“To have such an institution as the military now be open to gay and lesbian service members was an important victory.”

While she never did return to the Canadian Forces, she was pleased to see service members marching for the first time at Toronto’s pride festival in 2008.

“I approached them and told them who I was. They kind of had heard of my case but for them it was really something they saw as history,” she said.

“It was heartwarming to me to know that there had been such advances. . . that it could now be viewed as history and people could just get on with their lives and serve their country proudly and openly.”

Megan MacLean, a spokeswoman for Canada’s Department of National Defence, said the military keeps no statistics regarding homosexual members but says gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered people serve in all three branches of the military.

Since the rules changed in 1992, she said, incidents of discrimination and harassment have been “extremely rare.”

She touted Canada as a global leader when it comes to inclusiveness. She noted, however, that the Obama administration had not sought any Canadian advice on how to tackle the thorny subject.

Nathaniel Frank, a senior researcher in the U.S. with the Palm Centre, said that’s not an unlikely proposition.

Every time the debate surfaces in the U.S., he said officials look to more liberal countries like Canada and Britain. While American conservatives often dismiss Canada and Western Europe as too laissez-faire, Frank said that’s inaccurate.

There was actually plenty of political opposition before the Canadian ban was lifted, he said, and a majority of male soldiers polled prior to 1992 said they’d refuse to shower, undress, or sleep in the same room as a gay comrade.

“The same kinds of rhetoric we heard here (in the U.S.) during our debate in the early 1990s and since – that this would never work, that it would undermine morale and cohesion, that the military would suffer and that it’s too big a risk – were also heard in Canada,” Frank said.

But a 2000 study of the Canadian experience by the University of California research group found no basis for the allegations.

Lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered soldiers reported good working relationships with their peers; incidences of sexual harassment among women dropped; and not a single assault could be attributed to gay-bashing.

The study concluded that lifting the ban on openly gay members had no bearing on military performance, unit cohesion, or discipline.

He expects the same would be true if the U.S. dropped its ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell’ policy and says he’s optimistic nay-sayers won’t be able to stave off change for much longer.

“We know we’re standing on the right side of history,” he said.